Published 10/29/2025 1:44 pm | Edited 10/29/2025 14:03
O Red Portal exclusively interviewed the representative of the Communist Party of Israel, Yoáv Goldring during his participation in the 16th Congress of the PCdoB.
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Red – What is the Israeli Communist Party’s assessment of the ceasefire agreement in the Gaza Strip between the resistance and Israel?
Yoav gold ring – The first thing is to say that we are very happy with the ceasefire and the exchange agreement. It could have happened the day after the attacks (October 8, 2023). In the Gaza Strip, the government intended, through genocide, to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip. As well as in the West Bank, due to the pogroms of the settlers supported by the army and the increasingly frequent military operations there.
This killing was intentional. Netanyahu’s fascist government declared this through several mouths of his ministers, confessions of these war crimes. But it is necessary to warn about the hegemony of the United States in the region, with Qatar involved, Saudi Arabia, France, Egypt, Israel. The US tries to resolve the Palestinian issue without the Palestinians themselves. This is a danger. The Party has assessed from very early on that the Nakba [catástrofe, desastre] Palestinian has three factors: Zionism, imperialism and the Arab reactionary clique.
Red – During these two years of massacre against the Palestinian people, your party has acted courageously and heroically against the genocide.indio. What the party has faced in terms of representationondue to this actiono brave?
Yoav gold ring – The Netanyahu government appointed Itamar Ben-Gvir as minister of internal security police, a violent fascist who uses the police, not only to persecute center-left demonstrations, but also to persecute our comrades for a simple post on Facebook; or try to prevent demonstrations for which we need to ask the Supreme Court for authorization. The police, following his order, try to prohibit any opposition demonstration and remove any raised Palestinian flag, or even a sign that says “Thou shalt not kill”.
Red – Were the party’s deputies impeached or are they still serving in office?
Yoav gold ring – Both Ofer Cassif and Aida Tuma Sliman (the two PCI representatives in the Knesset – Israel’s national parliament) were expelled and had their mandates suspended for a few very long months, for denouncing the genocide. Our Hadash partner, Ayman Odeh for example, faced a major attack when he celebrated the first exchange agreement, for mentioning the released Palestinians. This is a constant persecution that is only increasing. With the elections approaching, we know that they will do everything to try to prevent the party from participating in the election.
Red – Voceh cited two communist parliamentarians, but the PCI is part of a larger coalition. Could you explain it to the Brazilian reader?
Yoav gold ring – We participate in the Democratic Front for Peace and equality, which forms the acronym Hadash. This is our front. Within our front, from Hadash, of the three parliamentarians we elected in the last dispute, two are from the party. In the last elections, Hadash made an alliance with Taàl, with two deputies, who vote with us on all issues, led by Dr. Ahmed Tibi, who was a person very close to the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafát.
Red – Many argue that the majority of the populationthe Israeli and Zionist and supports cleansing andtonic against the Palestinians. Youeh agree with this statemento?
Yoav gold ring – Zionism has several different meanings in Israel that also change over time. There are many, for example, who use Zionist justifications (of maintaining a Jewish majority, for example), but go so far as to support an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel. We, at the PCI, are anti-Zionists, our criticism of Zionism is against the supremacy and ethnic cleansing that it carries out and justifies, but also as a false ideology for the Jewish masses, which distorts the real interests of the Jews. After the creation of Israel, over time the Zionists were able to equate the notion of homeland with the notion of Zionism, as they were able to describe themselves as a national liberation movement, which is obviously false.
Red – And how does the population position itself in relation to Netanyahu’s government?
Yoav gold ring – I don’t think Israel has ever had so much demonstration against the government as in the last two years. And even a little earlier, with the legal reform that they tried to carry out. People have different levels of positioning, and of course there is change. There are people who at first only worried about the hostages, calling for a ceasefire and exchange agreement. Progressive and democratic forces among Israeli Jews began on the fringes of these demonstrations, but as soon as the understanding that a genocide is underway, these demonstrations became more explicit. Denouncing war crimes, genocide, Netanyahu’s war for political survival, hundreds with photos of murdered Palestinian children or photos of hostages. There are several people with different voices. Our role as communists is to appear in these places with the correct slogans, and the change in opinions has been very evident.
Red – EntIt would not be incorrect to say that the majority of the Israeli population supports cleansing andtunic two Palestinians.
Yoav gold ring – It is true that with all the conflicts, with all the blood involved, people tend to take more nationalist positions. But this is not a feeling that cannot be worked on, that cannot change. During the war we observed a significant shift in government disapproval and mainstream criticism of war crimes. These positions I think are more permeable than they seem. During the Oslo negotiations, support for the Two-State solution was very clear.
Red – In Brazil, someçthose on the left characterize Netanyahu as a neo-fascist. How does the PCI qualify Netanyahu’s current ideologically?
Yoav gold ring – We’ve been talking about the fascist danger for a while now. Now, we characterize the current moment as one of realization of the fascist danger. We already see many characteristics of fascism taking hold, such as volunteer militias, people from the right who will beat up left-wing demonstrations, or carry out “pogroms” in Palestinian villages. So this is fascism in its most mature form. Perhaps we can try to differentiate, theoretically, between classic and current fascism. But the fascist danger would, in theory, require a policy of broad alliances, including with liberals, to try to isolate the fascism that today attracts the right and center right. But this is not easy to do in Israel as liberals and even the center-left are reluctant to form alliances with the more consistent left and with the Palestinians. However, I believe that, to isolate the common enemy, such a political movement will be necessary, and we are always talking to those who can walk with us even a short part of the path, helping to remove this stone but who we understand will not go with us until the socialist revolution.
Red – Voceh Do you consider that there is a left-wing Zionism? Or, as many say here in Brazil, or if and Zionist or and left-wing?
Yoav gold ring – Today, this movement of left-wing Zionism is increasingly weak, although in Israel there are still many people who define themselves as left-wing and Zionist. Some, for example, argue that Zionism means the right to statehood for the Jewish people, but support an independent and sovereign Palestinian state.
Red – There are voices that claim the end of the two-state solution and that the true solution would be a binational, democratic state.onethical and secular. How the Communist Party of Israel seeseh this discussionand how do youehDo you see the future of the Palestinian cause?
Yoav gold ring – It is an example of the limitations of utopian thinking in not being able to put the correct, current motto that responds to concrete reality. This idea is perhaps more just and ideal, but it ignores the Palestinian aspiration for separate self-determination. Both the PLO and Hamas defend the creation of a Palestinian State with the borders of before the 1967 war. The world almost entirely supports the creation of the Palestinian State. Palestinians within the Israeli state also reached this resolution. It is not necessary, if necessary, to even say “two states”: there is a consensus of support in the formulation of a sovereign and independent Palestinian state with the borders of before 1967. Those voices you mention often cite the argument that settlements have made this solution unfeasible. In this sense, they end up agreeing with the Israeli right that makes all this effort to combat the Two-State solution, in various direct and indirect ways. The Party insists that the agreement will have to include eviction of settlements and the withdrawal of settlements from Palestinian state territory. This was possible in Algeria and is crucial to the solution here too. Palestinian state now, is the motto of this moment. We believe this is possible and we fight for it.
Source: vermelho.org.br
